In 1966 the very famous V-litter was born (20.04.) Again we see the combination between Bordo & Cita. The most significant dogs were
Verry, Vello and Vilja
3 dogs you definitely will recognize in more or less any combination of today.
Verry was not used as often as Vello, but has proved his importance to the breed in the Eastern Europe and Russia.
Vello on the other hand, we see behind any important stud or female. He especially proved important to the
Forell, Mühlenbirke & Wilden Markgraf kennels
Through this popularity he of course had, and still has, tremendous influence on the breed in general.
He was the Sire of Bonni, Bryan, Drago and Dascha von Forell and grandfather of Bronco von Zenn & Bingo von Ellendonk. He was owned by the very well known judge Ottmar Vogel, who also was the founder of the Wilden Markgraf kennel.
Vilja became later one of the females, to carry on this important bloodline at the Fürstenfeld kennel, and the Dam of ”Framo”.
Vello v. Fürstenfeld
The same year the W-litter saw the light (21.04.) out of:
Bordo (75537) and Ina (77492)
Again a very strong line breed. Some of the most important dogs out of this combinations were
Windo, Welda and Wilma
The male Windo and the female Welda carried on the tradition at the Fürstenfeld kennel.
Wilma on the other hand went to the Eichenhain kennel, where she continued the success of the Eichenhain dogs, which was started by her 3/4 brother “Jago”.
Jago and Miko v. Fürstenfeld
The last litter that year, at the Fürstenfeld kennel, was the Z-litter (03.05) out of:Odin (78688) and Blacky of Fayette Corner
1967 was the last year, where we find the significant combination Bordo and Citta. It was the second A-litter (05.04.)
The same year we see the W-litter repeated as the second B-litter (08.04.) Out of these two litters, the only dog - to our knowledge - which was actually used for further breedings, was the male Bordo II.
The breeding pattern of kennel Fürstenfeld continues up through time, which you will be able to observe in the following combinations.
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C-litter (01.10.67.) Bordo & Blacky D-litter (01.03.68.) Windo (79819) & Orsa (78693) E-litter (15.03.68.) Windo & Ina F-litter (22.06.68.) Windo & Vilja (79816) G-litter (13.03.69.) Windo & Blacky H-litter (27.08.69.) Vello (79814) & Welda (79823) I-litter (02.09.69.) Miko (78340) & Ina J-litter (06.06.70.) Framo (81094) & Orsa K-litter (25.07.70) Quing D Estelle de la Mur (lof 79191385) & Farina (81089) L-litter (01.03.71.) Windo & Inda (81869) M-litter (03.04.71.) Windo & Blanka v. Klippeneck (81902) |
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N-litter (18.05.71.) Framo (81084) & Doren (70788) O-litter (25.02.72.) Windo & Orsa P-litter (02.03.72.) Windo & Inda (81869) R-litter (22.06.72.) Bordo 2 (80232) & Farina (81098) S-litter (13.03.75) Nino (83294) & Onda (83895) T-litter (22.03.75.) Nino & Malina (83050) U-litter (12.03.75.) Framo & Rana (84321) V-litter (03.09.75.) Orlino (83855) & Nadia (83298) W-litter (19.02.76.) Nino & Malina Z-litter (22.02.76.) Nino & Rana |
Sando and Elma v. Fürstenfeld
After having gone through the alphabet the second time Kennel Fürstenfeld ends its breeding history in Germany.
It seems that a lot of these breedings disappears out of Germany. We do know, that a lot of these dogs were exported to
England, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Italy and France
We do hope that these dogs have continued their importance to the Dobermann breed in these countries.
Why, do we belive that the “Fürstenfeld” dogs, are of such high importance to the breed even today!
We can only give out the results of our own experience, and of course the results of any combinations, where these dogs are represented. Do not forget from which dogs this bloodline sprang.
If we look back into the pedigrees which were mentioned earlier, we find that .....
- Lump v. Hagenstolz - was a world winner twice (1956/1957) and SchH 1
- Carmen v. Felsingpass - Bundessiegerrin 1957, Int. champion - SchH 1
Lump produced the following offspring, some of these with Carmen.
Titus Germania - Bundessieger 1961 - SchH 1
Citto v. Fürstenfeld - Dutch Winner 1959
Citta v. Fürstenfeld - Int. champion, Swiss champion and Bundessiegerin 1959
Alfa v. Wappen zu Bremen - Bundessiegerin and IDC-siegerin 1960, Int. champion, SchH 1 and past the Körung
Falko v. Hagenstolz - Bundessieger 1963 - SchH 1
Even though, that Lump himself was described to have too light eyes, to bee a little weak in his pasterns, none of these faults were past on to the above mentioned dogs. It seems that he carried on the best qualities he had himself, like - power full, alert, excellent reach of the neck, well angulated and a good head.
Citto, had all these qualities, but more than that, his head was much better, it was wonderful. Besides that, he was praised for his superb dark markings.
His offsprings like:
Arco of Fayette Corner - Int. champion - IDC-sieger and SchH 3
Rado v. Fürstenfeld - Bundessieger and Amsterdam Winner 1967, Dutch and Int. champion - SchH 1
Ember v. Weinberge - Bundessiegerin 1961 - SchH 1
Ina v. Fürstenfeld - Bundessiegerin 1962 and her Dam Tonka Germania a full sister to Titus.
Blanka v. Hohenwürzburg - Bundessiegerin 1963, Swiss Winner - SchH 1
all inherited these qualities.
Lex v. Forell - a son of Titus - became Bundessieger 1964 and SchH 1. He, like his Sire, had all the previous described qualities.
Citta, the full sister of Citto, and the Dam of
Mecki v. Fürstenfeld - Bundessieger, Dutch champion 1965 - Int. champion and best male at the World Show in Brünn - SchH 3
Miko v. Fürstenfeld - DV sieger, Int. champion and Luxembourg champion - SchH 1
Mascha v. Fürstenfeld - Bundessiegerin 1965, DDR and Italian siegerin, German and Int. champion - SchH 3
Vello v. Fürstenfeld - SchH 3 - past the Körung
Verry v. Fürstenfeld - SchH 3 and German working champion
Vilja v. Fürstenfeld - Bundessieger 1967. She was described as an outstanding female with no serious faults. Like her brother she had all the qualities which could be desired, and which she carried on to her offspring.
Argus v. Neroberg - Bundessieger 1963 and SchH 3, his mother was - Gina v. Fürstenfeld -
Anja v.d. Siegfriedshöhe - Bundesseigerin 1969 - SchH 1
Armin Meckie v. Roten Feld - Bundessieger 1969 - SchH 3
both out of - Mecki v. Fürstenfeld -
Palma v. Ellendonk - Bundessiegerin - SchH 3 - past the Körung and German working champion, her Sire was - Miko v. Fürstenfeld -
Afra v. Bavaria - Swiss and Int. champion, DV-siegerin 1972 - SchH 3, her Dam was - Mascha v. Fürstenfeld -
Gravin Faby v. Neerlands Stam - Bundessiegerin 1971, Dutch and Luxembourg champion, Dutch winner 1968/1969
Graaf Gento v. Neerlands Stam - Dutch champion and winner 1968
both out of - Rado v. Fürstenfeld -
And the two full brothers Bryan and Bonni v. Forell,
Bryan v. Forell - Champion in Norway and Sweden
Bonni v. Forell - German and Int. champion - Bundessieger 1970 - SchH 1
And not to forget - the D-litter out of Forell (Drago and Dascha) - which were the same combination as the B - litter.
Boy v.d. Mühlenbirke - German Dobermann Club Winner - past the Körung for life 1A - SchH 3
all out of - Vello v. Fürstenfeld -
We could continue to mention dogs, which not only had an excellent show career, but also have shown there abilities through the working results they achieved. All being products out these dogs or going back to these bloodlines.
The most important qualities to notice are:
Long beautiful heads - dark eyes - beautiful necklines - much nobility - lively expression - deep chests - well angulated - firm back, but some-time not square - straight, strong bone structure, tight feeds - correct movements - dark and rich tan - and not to forget - excellent character and with good working abilities.
All these dogs had the “Fürstenfeld” look, an expression which were often used, and even today we ourselves see that through our own breedings.
All in all, one must give the Fürstenfeld dogs the credit, that they come from a strong and firmly nursed bloodline.
We ourselves were one of the proud owners of one of the last living direct descending females out of these bloodlines, which also carried the Fürstenfeld name
She was 13 years old on the 03.10.2000 and due to old age, we had to lay her to rest on the 27.12. 2000
- but to the very last, she was in control and a worthy representative of this magnificent breed.
By trying to show you how the Fürstenfeld dogs were bred - up through time - based on an extremely strong founded bloodline, we do hope to have provided you with some useable information, and understanding of the difference between out-breed / line-breed / in-breed.
But beware - before you try anything similar to the previous described combinations. There are many risks involved. Even though you are an experience breeder, and believe you have the knowledge to do it, our advise will still be "be careful". If you try it out anyway, you better make sure, that your breeding material are sound, healthy, without any major faults and don't have any history of degeneration.
Bitten Jönsson, Jotunheim kennel (Denmark)
